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SuperDicq@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo (2026-07-31 18:25:03)
@phnt@fluffytail.org @icedquinn@blob.cat @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @sun@shitposter.world @pwm@darkdork.dev I know how the internet works. I just think it should work differently. Preferably without ISPs at all.
Also I named colocations for people who can not host things at home for whatever as a valid reason to have a datacenter.
Colocations for actual people = good
Multiple square kilometer Microsoft exclusive hyperscaler = bad
How is that not a reasonable take?
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Phantasm@phnt@fluffytail.org (2026-07-31 18:39:41)
@SuperDicq @icedquinn @tyil @sun @pwm
I just think it should work differently. Preferably without ISPs at all.
I don't think that is possible, especially without ISPs. Someone has to own the backbone and own the hardware capable of handling tens of terabits while routing it correctly and without extra delays. Your Linux router can't even handle the Internet's full routing table as of now, and it certainly would not be able to deal with the even more fragmented routing without ISPs. Even only without residential/business ISPs.
Colocations for actual people = good
Multiple square kilometer Microsoft exclusive hyperscaler = bad
The hyperscalers weren't an issue until recently. Before AI it was only AWS and Cloudfed. It's a reasonable take except that most people don't have a need for collocation. Business, even small ones, are the main customers. No need to have huge racks onprem with large HVAC systems, large UPSes and at least 10Gbit fiber when you can move it to a location dedicated specifically for that.
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SuperDicq@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo (2026-07-31 19:00:12)
@phnt@fluffytail.org @icedquinn@blob.cat @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @sun@shitposter.world @pwm@darkdork.dev
Someone has to own the backbone and own the hardware capable of handling tens of terabits while routing it correctly and without extra delays.
Preferably the internet would work in a drastically different way that makes it more suitable to use without huge routers, distributing the routing load more evenly across nodes, think of mesh networks and protocols such as IPFS.
And another option is deprivatization. If large infastructure really ends up being necessary then maybe all this infrastructure could be owned by everyone in a democratic way. Or is that too socialist for your liking?