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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-10-16 16:00:57)
@fristi @volpeon can’t this argument be used against anything you don’t like and be ignored for anything one does like

Like movie theaters and video games are a bigger “waste” of energy
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:privTri: Volpeon :areonNSmol:@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip (2026-10-16 16:14:49)
@sun @fristi I sometimes do wonder what makes the environmental impact of AI so much worse in people's minds than computer games, which heavily use GPUs as well. Computer games aren't essential to live, and insane graphics aren't necessary at all to be able to enjoy games. Unreal Engine is famously an absolute waste of performance. Why aren't we outraged about this?

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-10-16 16:20:36)
@volpeon @fristi tbh I don't know how to reason about it because potentially, anyhting that uses a bunch of power can be criticized. but at the same time we fully permit total wastes of electricity like amusement parks or whatever so clearly we know there's some kind of exception for fun but I don't know where the line is

Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer@r000t@ligma.pro (2026-10-17 14:18:56)
@volpeon
It's because they don't actually care about the environmental impact. That's not a concern to them. 

No matter what you bring up as a counter example, almonds, golf courses, denim jeans, other forms of entertainment, even the electricity needed to keep the computer and display running while they make digital art... 

They'll always reply with something from one of two tracks:
1) "But I do care about that" (bullshit, I hit your account with Arctic Shift and, surprise surorise, you've never once reply guy'd someone over almonds or jeans, and you don't invade r/almonds or r/golf whining about it) 
2) "But those things are actually useful for humanity" which gets us closer to their actual position. They either cannot imagine any use case for generative tooling, or they're pretending that they can't because being anti-AI is a Current Thing and if they want to be a good Internet leftist, they must subscribe to the entire Internet Leftist cable package of Deeply Held Beliefs. 
@fristi @sun