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Gabriel@gabriel@mstdn.starnix.network (2026-08-29 06:00:47)
@feld 
Correlation isn't causation and all that. 
One of the signs the data was cooked was that the data also showed that the shot reduced literally every kind of death (including accidents and murder) which basically means some "healthy user bias" is baked in at minimum. 

Also, how many shots just one or the whole recommended schedule? Cause that matters too. 

But all that is irrelevant because you're asserting that for every case the virus must be more lethal than the shot and that doesn't account for a great many things. At minimum I think it's basically impossible for a vast majority of people to not have caught a virus/variant by 2021 given how lockdowns were actually done even here in Ontario, which was one of the more serious jurisdictions.

Some go as far as to argue the whole virus was a charade. In hindsight it's actually pretty hard to rule that out when you consider the fact that the data is making that assertion. 

@hazlin
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Only 3 Easy Payments of $19.95@feld@friedcheese.us (2026-08-29 06:11:07)
@gabriel @hazlin 

> data also showed that the shot reduced literally every kind of death (including accidents and murder) which basically means some "healthy user bias" is baked in at minimum. 

Obviously that's just the result of humans being in lockdowns really. Hard to have accidents when there's nowhere to drive, etc, hard to murder people who aren't at the local In-N-Out drive thru, etc etc lol so yeah that's weird and dumb, agreed 

> But all that is irrelevant because you're asserting that for every case the virus must be more lethal than the shot and that doesn't account for a great many things. 

It accounts for a lot, actually. The real disease comes with systemic inflammation and a many other things that the vaccine cannot cause. That's why we know it to be less harmful than the actual virus.

> Some go as far as to argue the whole virus was a charade. In hindsight it's actually pretty hard to rule that out when you consider the fact that the data is making that assertion. 

What data?

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-29 06:23:59)
@feld @hazlin @gabriel is this broken down by age? because I can appreciate that the virus or the vaccine could whack a person the same if they had an underlying heart weakness, but my concern is the seeming spike of healthy 16-19 year olds dropping dead in the middle of a soccer game. maybe it was just reporting increased but I don't believe it because that would be a news story no matter what, even if it did happen all the time but sporadically.