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SuperDicq@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo (2026-09-14 17:48:13)
@r000t@ligma.pro I don't think this has to do with gender. I think the core issue here that the US has a punitive criminal justice that cares more about "an eye for an eye" than actually being pragmatic and focusing on the needs of society.

In the US you either go to jail, or get "not guilty by reason of insanity" with some non-voluntary commitment.

In the Dutch legal system someone like Lindsay Clancy would have 100% gotten "Terbeschikkingstelling", a court ordered measure for serious offenders with mental issues. It is essentially incarceration combined with psychiatric treatment, clinics where people usually only ever leave from not when their punitive sentence is over but when the clinic is certain the person will not be reoffending for the sake of keeping society safe.
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SuperDicq@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo (2026-09-14 17:54:52)
@r000t@ligma.pro Basically what I'm saying is in cases like this what bothers me most about the US legal system is that people all everyone cares about from both sides is if she deserves punishment or not.

It doesn't fucking matter if she's responsible or not. Either way what actually matters is that she needs to be locked away from society and get psychiatric treatment.

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hat@HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social (2026-09-14 18:06:07)
@SuperDicq @r000t yeah, locking people up is a practical measure to protect society, and it follows naturally that while locked up, we make criminals undergo whatever process we find best balances effectiveness at rehabilitating them with speed and cost.
the thing is, the outcome of the process of justice should deter unrelated people from offending as much as possible. if what happens to me if i hurt people is that i get free therapy and get to live somewhere i'm fed and cared for for a while, and that while gets longer the more severe my infraction, if i'm lonely and poor enough, suddenly stabbing thirty people to death sounds like a great idea. at some point, hurting others needs to hurt me.
i'm not saying to believe exactly what i do, which is public torture and execution for any crime more severe than raising your voice, but i am saying "these damn americans and their punishments" is not really the best thing to argue, even if "i don't care about the philosophical angle of whether l.c. was really herself when she strangled her kids, she's a danger to society and until we can satisfy ourselves that's no longer true, she needs to be removed from society" is an excellent point.