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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-18 14:37:23)
Something I have been developing and pushing back hard on though is, there's a super defensive move to blame christians for pro israel bullshit but I at this point believe definitively, all christian pro israel shit is way downstream from jewish zionist money and the state of israel directly itself, where it has no benefit to actual christians except to the specific grifters who are getting cut checks from israel to suck its cock. the closest you can get to blaming actual christians directly is pete hegseth who is a christian, is an extremist  nut, is in a a direct and powerful position of authority that helps israel, for his christian mindset. but that is literally the only example, but a potent one. it's still downstream from the fact that israel owns our government though, he was handpicked because he'll do the same work and plausibly defend from that criticism
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⚡⛥ Maður Margvalds ⛦⚡@toiletpaper@shitposter.world (2026-09-18 14:45:17)
@sun 

Of course I gotta throw in my $0.02...

As an Abrahamic religion, Christianity is automatically in the same camp. It's basically just a schism of Judaism which broke off around 150 years into Judaisms advent (ie. since widespread adoption of the Torah). But the support for Israel is just a fairly recent manifestation of the same duplicitous bloody history of that class of traditions. Abrahamic ``religion`` is basically a glorified narcissistic superstition whose track record is a long trail of genocidal behaviour excused by an equally long stream of disingenuous saccharine platitudes.

As to individual Christians, yeah I know most are decent well meaning people. But it doesn't really help much to deflect from the overall consequences of continuing to promote that ideology. At some point they have to accept some culpability. The bad behaviour isn't a fringe effect. It's a consistent feature of the system from stem to stern.

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-18 14:51:50)
@toiletpaper christians are complicit, for dumb doctrinal reasons, greed, and generally being stupid and manipulable. but they're downstream of the animating causes of zionism which 100% of the time tracks back to an identifiable subset of jewish people (not even remotely all jewish people) who are acting in an ethnic chauvinist (and sometimes, supremacist) interest. At this point honestly, ignoring the obvious connection of Israel and Jewishness is at the same tier as arguing that the civil war was not actually about slavery.