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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-14 22:48:02)
@ignaloidas @taylan I don't know what my opinion on it is tbh, seems like there are benefits to either way. However, you cannot side with feminists and be against women-only spaces, because almost all feminists, and certainly all feminists connected to notable organized feminist movements, completely disagree with you on this. severely.
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Ignas Kiela@ignaloidas@not.acu.lt (2026-09-14 23:00:21)
@sun@shitposter.world @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org I don't really care about that, because I think that opinion is stupid and is counter to the goals.

Exclusion builds disdain from both sides, and I don't think it's in the interest of women to create a divide between them and men. The whole action of wanting exclusion grows from an existing disdain for those with a label, it comes from stereotyping, and exclusion makes it worse.

Take fucking incels for example: it's a group of men who felt excluded by women, and they started excluding women from their group, which meant that women's disdain for them grew and they started excluding them, and it just cyclically repeats with the disdain from both sides growing. The only way to break the cycle is to force the exclusion to stop in some way, so that the disdain can stop growing.

If feminists want this, then I don't want to be with feminists.

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-14 23:02:17)
@ignaloidas @taylan fair point, I don’t agree with everything but it seems true that persisting divisions works counter to long term progressive goals