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Taylan (GNU+Feminism Cat)@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org (2026-09-14 22:01:32)
@ignaloidas 

There are many cases in life where exclusion is a good solution.

Excluding men from female-only spaces is a good solution to men bothering women.
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Ignas Kiela@ignaloidas@not.acu.lt (2026-09-14 22:06:39)
@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org for your own very specific definition of women, of course, because why not also exclude people from that 😉

And no, I in fact do not believe that excluding people by gender is a good solution in any case. It's no different than excluding people by skin color, or religion, or place of birth, etc. This stuff is operating on stereotypes and only stereotypes. If you have to exclude, exclude on based on actions, not based on labels.

It really is just racism in different clothes

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-14 22:38:38)
@ignaloidas @taylan doesn't this preclude women only spaces completely, no matter how you define woman

Taylan (GNU+Feminism Cat)@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org (2026-09-14 22:39:14)
@ignaloidas 

It's incredible that otherwise smart people can believe something as utterly insane as what you've just said. It's close to being a flat earther.

So you're advocating for the complete abolition of:

* Female-only sports
* Female-only restrooms
* Female-only locker rooms
* Female-only political groups

This is a return to medieval sexism.

Women won't be able partake in sports at all with the exception of a few tiny niches.

Many women will avoid traveling because they'll be scared about what might happen if they need to use the toilet. (See: "urinary leash." Historically known phenomenon before wide availability of female-only restrooms.)

Women generally won't be able to attend swimming pools, gyms, etc. unless they find some safe opportunity to change their clothes, because otherwise they'll need to get naked in front of male strangers.

Women won't be able to challenge any of this because any time they try to organise, men will barge in and say they're plotting evil schemes to exclude men. 

This is morally and intellectually on the same level as being a far-right extremist lunatic like Nick Fuentes. Do you not see how utterly insane it is? 

By the way, I don't decide who is and isn't a woman. Physical reality does.

I'm not excluding people with penises from whatever word we use to describe people with vulvas. It's a physical reality that these two different types of anatomy exist.

It's also a physical reality that members of the former group have very significant advantage in athletic performance, such that separation in sports becomes necessary if you want people in the latter group to be included in sports.

And it's a social reality that the former group endanger and bother the latter group to such an extent that separation becomes necessary.

You're drunk on insane theories whose application would lead to a complete exclusion of women from public life.

Get out of this extremist echo chamber man.

You're turning left/liberal politics into a