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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 17:08:09)
@mangeurdenuage @i @lain @phnt maybe the money they get is separated between hosting costs and developing mastodon but neither of those map cleanly to helping develop diverse activitypub ecosystem, it does happen but it's mostly driven by the needs of adding more features to mastodon
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 17:06:57)
@toast I am pretty sure you know that people in software also have to get good at prompting clients to get the clear answer too and it is inefficient and annoying and takes away from real work.
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: ๐ฟ :abeshinzo: :ignutius: :descartes: :stargate: @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 17:06:30)
@sun @phnt @i @lain
>take money from the eu
>results into this
:pika:
Reply to @phnt@fluffytail.org
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 17:03:31)
@phnt @i @lain we have our own network, it's even smaller than mastodon. that prick just wants to build out mastodon, people give him more money so he can pay the hosting costs of dumping even more people just into mastodon.social I guess.
Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
(eval 'Toast)@toast@donotsta.re (2026-08-06 17:03:30)
@sun I do actually agree with this, my problem is kind of elsewhere. "Prompt engineering" is bs, but *everything* is a skill you can be better or worse at, including prompting.
The problem is that models work disparately, so things that improve semantic alignment in one might not in another (there's some research to suggest that embeddings are transferable spaces, which would imply that you could apply a mechanical transformation to the prompt to get the same result, but we don't have this yet).
On top of that, with most things, as you do the thing more you get better at doing the thing, but because of the sycophancy this is attenuated here: getting better at prompting by prompting more is inefficient.
Then you have all of the neurological issues that are associated with the entire category of technology, where as you get better at prompting (less quickly than at most other things) you also get worse at the actual things you're trying to do, at a greater rate than you improve at the prompting (for instance, persistence is greatly diminished even after 10m of usage, while being a huge predictor for outcomes, to the point that lately one of my focuses has been persistence).
So I do agree that you can be better at using these things, but there's so many attenuating factors to this that it doesn't feel like it would ever be worthwhile, at least to me, even if it was actually free (rather than exploding in costs as they try to burn money less quickly).
mame muumimamma in ๐พ@mametsuko@mk.absturztau.be (2026-08-06 17:03:01)
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Phantasm@phnt@fluffytail.org (2026-08-06 17:00:07)
@i @lain @sun The two features I'm in the process of building into Pleroma are both incompatible with Mastodon, one will be a new FEP. Do you think I care that Mastodon users won't be able to take advantage of them? No, they can try to convince their emotionless CEO to support them. Not my problem.
Reply to @toast@donotsta.re
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:58:47)
@toast I don't want to sound like "prompt engineer" is a real job but asking questions to an LLM is in fact a skill and can produce wildly different results depending on the quality of the questioning. there is basically probably ten people on Earth that could synthesize concepts from both Fuschia and SEL4 OS and none of them have time to talk to me, but the LLM at all their source code and gave me actionable insight. Sometimes it's wrong, but the gains are way bigger than the downsides. you learn how to mitigate that too.
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:blank:@i@declin.eu (2026-08-06 16:56:20)
@phnt @lain @sun there's easier ways to have no one to federate with
Reply to @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:55:28)
@raccoon kind of abstract concept but you can store big graphs of linked data and build applications, including collaborative appliications, out of it.
just cell@cell@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:54:58)
fancy matcha is the same price in KL and SG
how can KL people afford matcha
Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
Phantasm@phnt@fluffytail.org (2026-08-06 16:54:49)
@sun @lain You can just ignore Mastodon. (Many don't understand this.)
Reply to @cell@shitposter.world
(eval 'Toast)@toast@donotsta.re (2026-08-06 16:53:50)
@cell tragicโฆ
Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
Trash Panda - now diagnosed edition!@raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest (2026-08-06 16:53:42)
@sun@shitposter.world
What was it allegedly built for?
Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
(eval 'Toast)@toast@donotsta.re (2026-08-06 16:52:36)
@sun I haven't really used it much? When I was new I made an account and posted answers (if you see any answers from deleted accounts with like 14k points there's a solid chance it's one of mine), but I quickly realized it's pointless.
The posters are not trying to help you learn something, they're pointfarming with the target audience being other pointfarmers. And even if they were trying to help you, it's just the blind leading the gullible.
Your post was a good insight though in that it's the same kind of failure category, just with a different modality, in that both SE and LLMs tend to produce poor quality answers with hidden faults that you need to already know about the thing to identify.
The difference is that LLMs will make things up wholesale or push towards sycophancy while SE will push towards "I know the answer but you haven't earned it" (they do not in fact know the answer).
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:51:22)
@raccoon what it was allegedly built for, not just microblogging and a couple shit-tier reddit clones
amy :neobot_flag_finsexual::neobot_flag_trans:@thing@thegayagenda.fans (2026-08-06 16:51:16)
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Reply to @lain@lain.com
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:50:56)
@lain I felt a great sense of freedom working with Egregoros and not trying to ram everything through the mastodon-shaped pinhole anymore.
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just cell@cell@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:50:34)
@toast thatโs easy, if stack exchange disappears i will trust chatgpt with my questions and spoonfeed me answers
Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
Trash Panda - now diagnosed edition!@raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest (2026-08-06 16:50:20)
@sun@shitposter.world
Cool like what?
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lain@lain@lain.com (2026-08-06 16:50:11)
@sun i have some appreciation for the misskey approach of 'just put random shit in the object and let god sort it out'
Reply to @toast@donotsta.re
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:49:29)
@toast isn't it kind of unusable now, usage has massively dropped off for various reasons. I think it's a great idea that deserves to exist in perpetuity but something really bad has happened to it.
Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:48:38)
I cannot restate enough how underspecified and fragmented the fediverse ecosystem is if you try to actually do anything "cool" with it.
(eval 'Toast)@toast@donotsta.re (2026-08-06 16:48:03)
All the people that are anti-stackexchange, or want to slow stackexchange progress, I have one question:
If stackexchange disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday without stackoverflow, serverfault, superuser, or any other source of answers?
Imagine stackexchange was suddenly banned.
Would you actually be willing to give it up?
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Reply to @sun@shitposter.world
ๅพกๅใฏใใ@hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info (2026-08-06 16:37:09)
@sun @deadheat @romin yeah tungsten is normalfag-tier, every cryptobro has one
praseodymium, however,
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:36:25)
@kaia wars have been waged for less
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-08-06 16:36:01)
@hakui @deadheat @romin get on my level
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