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バツ子(台風に倒されない@ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu (2026-09-12 21:02:18)
@sun @snacks @idiot @whiteline 
yeh, this was like 2011. students were encountering java like this and graduating without ever learning anything

in the 00s though was around bunch of teens teaching themselves, and "why does everything have to suck so much, oop garbage pile" was consensus there. go release got them excited
---Reply--- Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-12 21:04:02) @ageha @snacks @idiot @whiteline around 2004 it was all Java EE and SOA and it was insane bloated shit, yeah.
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-12 21:04:53)
@ageha @idiot @snacks @whiteline I worked on an insane framework called broadleaf once, literally suicide-inducing