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バツ子（台風に倒されない@ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu (2026-09-12 20:55:02)
@sun @snacks @idiot @whiteline 
students i knew definitely couldn't, brittle template generators barfing incomprehensible things and layers of "enterprise ide" preventing people even learning version control
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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-09-12 20:57:15)
@ageha @snacks @idiot @whiteline I think I'm a bit older than you, none of that existed for several years until after I graduated. We were coding Java on MC68K macintoshes with a couple megabytes of RAM.

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バツ子（台風に倒されない@ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu (2026-09-12 21:02:18)
@sun @snacks @idiot @whiteline 
yeh, this was like 2011. students were encountering java like this and graduating without ever learning anything

in the 00s though was around bunch of teens teaching themselves, and "why does everything have to suck so much, oop garbage pile" was consensus there. go release got them excited