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shibao@shibao@shitposter.world (2026-10-25 11:05:36)
@bajax @phnt i don't get why you're shitting on this thing that you don't understand fully

>is there a way to have a patch you can set on dockerfiles so you can use automatic updates and automatically apply your changes?
yes you create a custom dockerfile that just like how the normal dockerfile starts from the ubuntu image and adds commands and whatnot for it, you just have a custom dockerfile that starts with whatever software's dockerfile you're using and then add commands on top of it, which basically amounts to you following a software's installation guide and then deciding to do more commands after you're done with it. but with docker, it's repeatable and idempotent (or supposed to be in theory at least)
---Reply--- shibao@shibao@shitposter.world (2026-10-25 11:07:15) @bajax @phnt if you want to change something in the original dockerfile, just copy and paste it and then make your modifications and then ideally merge it back into the main repo or push it up on your own repo, this is the equivalent of making your own guide, but you can keep running it, when you do docker build it's the equivalent of spinning up a new VPS and doing the installation instructions from scratch automatically, and then you can run tests against it to check if it works. but then you don't have to spin up a second device with a second kernel with docker. that's it, that's all the "bloat" that everyone is complaining about
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[msg] Bajax@bajax@baj.ax (2026-10-25 11:18:03)
@shibao @phnt it's a preference thing and you're trying to cast it as some objective truth that you can force people to accept if you just bombard them with more information.

I don't like not having direct access to my executables. I don't like having a central service being the gatekeeper to the environment my software runs in. I don't like having to work with those things outside of my usual environment. I don't like my system suddenly having multiple IPs that I have to manage the security/firewall and routing for (or make sure that the assumptions of the container don't fuck them up for me). it makes messy assumptions about how software even works that a lot of people think is "good enough."

docker does things I don't like. that's all.