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lain@lain@lain.com (2026-07-23 19:54:38)
@grillchen @sun @aetios how about only people who want to vote have to pay taxes?
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grillchen@grillchen@brot.eus (2026-07-23 20:03:39)
@lain @sun @aetios i think infrastructure and social structure by a state/goverment is useful. 

if people want to make their own state somewhere with libertarian ideals without any taxes or optional taxes only, and everything is paid for voluntarily by private people or cooperations i dont mind. i might be worried about people getting born or forced into this system somehow. but as long as thats solved i dont mind.

i believe a state taking care of its sick or weak people, or infrastructure, education and co is in general  good social structure. i know we disagree on the following but "forced" taxes seem to me to be the current best solution for the common good . i believe a state should be the foundation for people to prosper, not a jail.

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Blurry Moon@sun@shitposter.world (2026-07-23 20:48:47)
@grillchen @lain @aetios what about people born into ordinary states, seems like the same problem