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John Carlos Baez@johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz (2026-09-24 16:52:36)
@TonyVladusich - It's easy to say "fuck them!", and I agree, but it doesn't solve the problem: namely, that OpenAI is threatening simply dump 100 big AI-generated proofs on the math community.   Maybe you're saying the self-appointed advisory board should just say "fuck you!" and we see what happens next.   There may be opportunity, though, to get some better outcome.
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Tony Vladusich@TonyVladusich@mathstodon.xyz (2026-09-24 17:55:29)
@johncarlosbaez 

I’m also saying “fuck you” to the self-appointed advisory board! If you’ve never worked in the tech industry you may not understand the level of deceit, propaganda and outright lies these companies will promulgate for their own ends.

Any attempt to engage in good faith is simply more trouble than it’s worth. Let them release what they have. Folks will scramble over the feast while it lasts and things will eventually stabilise again. But don’t give them what they want, which is the legitimacy of naive attempt at good faith bargaining. We’ve seen how that ends with the current wave of fascism gripping the US and elsewhere. I see the ends of these companies in terms of their attempt to undermine systems of free thought and hijack the labour market.

As scientists, they are our enemy. We, who defend free thought and labour for little else than human knowledge and betterment, stand between them and the destruction of all we value.

There endeth my poor attempt at a Churchillian rhetorical speech! 🤣

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John Carlos Baez@johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz (2026-09-24 18:14:37)
@TonyVladusich - Unfortunately for you, the board consists of 9 highly respected mathematicians.  So their reputations may get incinerated by their choice to participate, but they won't simply be brushed off by the mathematics community: they'll be taken seriously by many, at least at first. 

They were smart enough to start by asking for suggestions on how to proceed.  This is why I suggested that they democratize this business instead operating as self-appointed leaders.

Then mathematicians can argue it out, and maybe our opinions will have more effect.